3. Public Notice Placed in the Crafting Hall by the Masters

Public Notice Placed in the Crafting Hall by the Masters


  • chuckles

    _"Name me a law i have broken in this fine city? Hell i used to serve this city as a officer in the defenders. People throw words around without facts.. it get tiring.

    Most people here have personal grudges which clouds their true judgement. So some of you don't like me….. well i am hurt_ said with a smirk what the union is purposing is nothing to do with members personal ideas, but as a union as a whole, even within the union we are not all 'best' friends with each other winks at Arandor

    _As for the other halls, they were brought off the towns themselves and no 'strong arm' tactics were used. the towns were more than happy with the amount of money they received in payment

    As for you Zyphlin you were more than willing to 'take' a cut when we tried to buy them the last time. So your views have seemed to change now that you are not going to receive any money yourself.. Funny that.

    Anyway its for the Senate to decide now and i am sure they will see this as a fair and honest deal._

    Looks over to Equinox

    "Who did you ask for access to the halls in Norwick? You should have come and seen me and i would have given you a tour of the facilities. you must have asked the wrong person.


  • Sy'wyn wanders through Peltarch listening to the "speeches"

    And yet, I have been threatened by bards and druids myself, and do not let it reflect on their groups. You all are missing the fact that the opinion box is gone. Let your Senate vote on the matter, they were elected by you to give your voice, listen to what they choose.


  • Your company reflects on you, whether you endorse them or not.

    The fact that they are still your company is all the endorsement necessary. If you disapprove of such folk so strongly as you say, cast them out, or failing that, leave yourself.

    Until you do, cease the lies that you are better than they.


  • Perhaps one or two of our members might do that, but the rest of us would not tolerate that behavior, also the ones who are more likely to behave in that manner are not likely to be using the Peltarch crafting hall anyway.


  • @e76fdd9496=metagod:

    Zyphlin you know as well as I do that Harrassment, be it physical or verbal, is against the Law here.

    ::looks over to Cyrian::

    Harrassment and threats are illegal in this city, doesn't mean that it wouldn't happen behind closed and watched doors of an organization with such lawfully upstanding people like Rando within it. Just becuase its against the law doesn't mean it can't go on and won't get covered up. You think if 10 union members are in a crafting hall and one pulls an independent to the side and quietly threatens them that they're going to turn coat on thier partner? Somehow I doubt it.

    -edit- eep, just realized that was likely Cyrian and not Chaevre speaking.


  • Really? Amazing my friends told you something I hadn't thought of until I approached you. I really must figure out what friends I have that are so clairvoyant as to see that blissfully into the future. I'm sure they must also spew rainbows and candy when they relieve themselves with such wonderous powers.

    Watch. I can be you too. I knew crystals would spout up out of the ground before the first one ever did. Oh, oh. And I knew had tea with Zargothis a good year before he came around and we chatted about Asmodeous…i just didn't watn to let people know. Plus you know those time of troubles...yeah, had that planned out wayyyy in advance.

    And agreeing with the words yapping out from your pubic hair looking beard and what you actually intend to do are two seperate things. Until it is in righting in the contract that a dime won't be charged to any citizen of Peltarch ever to use the crafting facilities, be in the crafting facilities, or anything relating to the normal use of the halls, lest the union immedietly forfeit thier ownership to the building back to the city, you're not going to convince me that you're not going to go back on your flimsy, worthless, word the moment its most advantageous to you. Its not hard to say things you don't really mean Dwin.

    I think the Dolvak's are stand up men that have never done a shady thing in thier whole lives.

    See. I can do it too.


  • I'm the fool?

    ya think we didnt know yer plans the whole time! yer so-called friends told us your plan to build a second hall before you even approached me the first time, laddy. Dont get too proud o yerself.

    Did ya ever think ya were gonna get one copper from me?

    Anyway, as we all agree, yer opinion means nothin here, except when you are agreein with us, of course. Your last statement:

    @7e0869da14=tiny:

    The best thing for the citizens of Peltarch is for a full, and open, crafting hall to be within our city to promote trade and craftsman who are beholden to nothing but thier love of their hobby or livelihood.

    ..tis EXACTLY what we are promotin' here… I appreciate the support.


  • Zyphlin you know as well as I do that Harrassment, be it physical or verbal, is against the Law here.


  • Ah Dwin, my fine beard-headed friend, I didn't exactly expect you to understand that not everything is done for why it seems. Yes, I had begun to work with you on a wonderful plan to buy the crafting hall. It would've been wonderful if it had gone through, but sadly things blocked it up. The most beautiful part of the plan however was that you were to much of a dunce to see the reality of it. The money I was going to have you shill over to the city was going to be more than enough for the city to build its own second crafting hall that was even nicer than our current one, open to everyone once again, and all on the Union dime. I thought it was rather ingenous actually…let you all have your own place to lock up real tight and walk around smug going "hahaha, only we can use this becuase we're so great" while normal people could actually...you know...enjoy having a hobby perhaps or crafting without being in league with demogauges like Rando or swindler's like yourself.

    All things havn't been settled Arandor. There is nothing I've heard or seen gaurunteeing that the crafting hall has to stay open and free to all Peltarch citizens or the Union will immedietly forfiet the premises. There is nothing i've seen that will guaruntee that the idiots and bullies within your organization won't stand in there and harass, insult, and threaten every non-union member that goes in. There is nothing I've seen that will gauruntee this won't cause an increase of the "pull off to the side and 'gently' persuade" tactic I've seen employed for years and years by different members still in your organization.

    The best thing for the citizens of Peltarch is for a full, and open, crafting hall to be within our city to promote trade and craftsman who are beholden to nothing but thier love of their hobby or livelihood.


  • Oreth chimes in once more from his corner, between stitches

    You know, you union types bring this sort of thing on yourselves, by refusing to clean house…..

    You could have the purest intentions in the world, but because you continue to keep such....questionable company, you will always be doubted and mistrusted, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.

    And before you condemn me for being "biased" against the union (and what is so wrong with a bias, if that bias is based on observation and experience, and restricted to the situation in which it was formed?), know this: So long as I have a place to work, I care not who claims ownership of it. I am merely making an observation.


  • During a brief visit to check up on the tanning station and supplies, Arandor comments on all the recent commotion.

    "It seems to me that this protest is no longer concerned citizens speaking out in the best interest of the city… It is now purely slander by people who obviously have their own personal bias and agenda against the Union. It has been explained over and over just how and why this is going to be a good thing for all, yet people refuse to listen... Plans for expansions are being made, meaning more forges and supplies to work with, new dyes will be imported, a small fee implemented with the intention of basic upkeep... How is this a bad thing?

    All the 'real' concerns have been addressed... The Union has no intention to close the hall off, that is simply bad for business. It will remain open to citizens and all willing to pay the small fee. This has even been written into the contract has it not?

    Equinox... With all due respect. I know you are a good man, but you have been reclusive and unheard of for a long, long time. Your opinion of the Union is greatly dated at best, and it seems to me very poor form to jump into the middle of this debate because of a very old, and very obvious personal grudge.

    Beyond that... The only other reason I can see for those against the Union, is you don't like Rando. Well, guess what... Neither do I. It may or may not suprise you to learn that Rando's word holds no more sway then Tala, Ginger, Khaya, or even myself...

    You are not acting in the best interest of the city, lie to yourselves about that, not everyone else. It is quite obvious that certain individuals simply do not like the Union... And that is their reason for speaking out against this. Such opinions will never change, no matter the benefit and amount of good that it could, and will, bring.

    I think that now, everyone should be quiet... Enough shite has been flung. Let this be resolved through the proper channels, as I doubt anyone has anything new to add."

  • G

    Word continues to drift how the current arrangement does not allow for adequate equipping of the various military branches of Peltarch. In particular, the Far Scouts.


  • Dwin grins wide when he see the bard, who doesnt know a hammer from a pick, speak up –once again, uninvited.

    I was wonderin' when you would show up, tiny-dancer! Folks havin an argument all this time and ya missed half of it!

    Funny how you were very supportive of me purchasin the crafting hall when you were magistrate… of course you stood to benefit from the very large sum you had asked that I pay you, secretly and personally, as a "finders fee". Where i come from, its called "bribery," which is why I went right to the authorities. I guess you had every reason at that point to be supportive of such a deal. Now that you got nuthin' to do with it…look how you change your story!

    But now that you are no longer a magistrate, and just a tiny-dancer, you are back to slingin shiite my way... Well, lad... we're all kinda sick of it at this point. Do us all a favor, put yer rat-tail between yer legs and crawl back to the bard college. Your opinions aint valid here after ya tried, unsuccessfully, to ink this deal with your own purse in mind.


  • ::laughs just watching it all, sitting up on a box and smirking::

    Yeah. He's right. Not a lot of hard facts for strongarm tactics. After all, intimidated, ran off, or dead people don't talk. But trust me, lumpish dwarves and tottering half-orcs don't always have the best eyes in the world. You can try to convince people what you want, but there are a good bit of us that have seen the way you intimidate folks, threaten folks, and strong arm them into what they "should" be doing when it comes to selling. How members may make sly comments that on the surface may not seem like much, but anyone with half a brain knows them as a threat. Don't try to play us all off as dumb. Just those with beards and a love for gold don't know how to play the game of innuendo's and half truths. And even on simpler things, the locking out of the crafting halls and the stranglehold of selling that was placed on norwick and how it was enforced is enough of a "stronghanded" tactic to make me warry and in no way trust you all to keep your flimsy word that you're not going to lock out the halls in a few months or years.

    Are there good people in the Union. Of course there are. Some of them I consider great friends. But like it or not, when you're part of the organization, you must judge the organization by its weakest links and by its leadership and past actions. There may be one union member I wouldn't trust behind my back with a blunt fuzzy dagger for every 12 I'd willingly die beside…but the fact of the matter is to many of those ones I don't trust have to much sway. I'll put one Rando against any number of Tala's, Khaya's, Ginger's, Demi's, and anyone else you want to throw out there for exactly why I would'nt trust this.

    But that's okay. I'm sure Dwin will just get an itch in his beard, try to find some slummy folks like Banitse again, and throw out some more false accusations to try to "shut me up". Of course...that would be a bit stronghanded so, so that would never happen would it?


  • Stands with his arms crossed listening to the arguing dwarf

    Ye constantly mention the masters are upset… Bah.. ye talk falsehoods here master dwarf. I spoke with them the other day and nothing could be further from the truth. Nay that I ever see ye in the tradehall cept n to yap ye mouth off about these wonderous things ye gonna be changin with ye union.

    As for nay having Strongarm Tactics, this to is obviously a lie. Seeing as how I requested a simple viewing of ye facilities in Norwick, so that I could justify ye were bringing a better deal to us... But no, ye denied me flat out, insulted me and then chided me for having to walk back to Peltarch. Quite frankly this is nay the kind of attitude we welcome here in Peltarch.

    As for my knowledge of how a forge runs... are ye bahmy in the head?
    Or just like to continue the insults? I nay understand why my wife paid ye any heed at all.

    Ive little time to listen to these mad rantings and will see ye come the day of the senate.

    Furrows his brow as he leaves the establishment, being sure to tip the masters as he usually does


  • A heretofore unnoticed hin tugs on Equinox's sleeve and asks:

    The union tried to bully you? But your wife Khaya is a Union member. She's no bully. She's one of the kindest, most helpful people I know. Maythor too. And what about Tala? Eluriel? Demi? Cyrian? Sy'wyn? Pete? Star? Me? Are we all awful folks who bully and strongarm people? We are union members.

    Union members fight beside you in battles. Union members fought alongside Peltarch citizens against the Eastlanders. Union members may have saved your life at some point. Maybe they prayed to raise you from the dead, or paid for a diamond to bring you back. Before you make big sweeping statements about the big bad bullying union, think about who that is. Your wife. Your allies. Friends. People who care about you.

    Ginger steps back, takes a seat, and settles down to enjoy a delicious Lucky Ferret chicken dinner.

  • G

    Word is subtly leaked that the Far Scouts are seeking to contract with an adequate provider for some of their basic gear. The speed and craftsmanship of their latest shipment being substandard.


  • Huh. And here I figured someone would have use for them. Someone ought to take to selling them in the docks. I'm sure the workers could use good work boots or sturdy belts….

    Hell, I should start doing that.....

    Oreth goes and gathers up all the old junk from the bin, and tucks it all into a sack to carry off later


  • The masters have clarified to me that they are not as much subjected to rotting hides as much as they are constantly cleaning up the odd belts, boots, staves, and other "practice" type objects that aren't ever gonna be sold. They usually toss em in the forge or the trash after a while.


  • Oreth laughs softly

    I'm not opposing anything, Dwin. I am simply clarifying things. You said there was a cleaning problem. I am saying I do not see it. You implied that the masters here needed help to manage the place. I wished to make sure that was what you meant.

    When I have an agenda, I usually declare it pretty loudly. If I ask a question, assume it's because I want to know the answer. Nothing more.

    As for why your group got such a poor reputation… well, I would point out who's responsible for all the poor publicity, but it would be awfully impolite to talk about Rando while he's in the room.....

    Oh shite, my mistake.