3. Public Notice Placed in the Crafting Hall by the Masters

Public Notice Placed in the Crafting Hall by the Masters


  • Tings comments run along the lines of "This will only end in bad"

    It's anyone's guess as to why her grammar is so horrible.


  • Dwin is seen with several draftsmen walking around the building measuring areas and making notes.

    Just make sure me new office faces south, aye? A bit o sun is a good thing fer me health.


  • Dentin seems to have withdrawn from the public discussion. Whether he was forced to or chose to do so is something of debate among frequent visitors to the hall.

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    A rather shady man just laughs as he speaks to another crafter.

    "Sell out to the trade Union? Thats the most stupid thing I've heard in days. Vanity offers unique service that brings in people from all around and they want to give up their control of their profit to the Union? And this hall.. come to think of it.. citizens do infact pay taxes, and take care of the equipment and as far as wasting good ore.. well happens when there are students. To restrict it just to citizens is one thing but to move it beyond their control to the Union as long as they give one months notice? Insanity. Of course I suppose the trade Union would argue that more crafters is a bad thing despite having wars in the past where such supplies were no doubt in short supply. They can offer nothing the trade hall cannot already and given its more open policies it could become its own seperate union if that is really what is desired and crush all competition to the south with its superior policies, man power and coin if the city chose to fund it. Suggestion box is gone hrm? Pity." The man then leaves.


  • Oreth is still seen often in the hall, tanning and sewing away. However, his objections to the Union buyout have pretty much stopped. If asked, he shrugs

    Dwin agreed that the hall was not to be closed, and that independants would be charged only a nominal, one-time fee to pay for the upkeep of the facilities. It would be selfish to complain about that, and I'm surprised the masters never implemented such themselves. Furthermore, they've even said that independants and non-citizens who've paid their fee will be able to sell here. Assuming the union keeps its word, I see no further reason to fight this. Now go away, I need to concentrate.

  • DM

    Seeing as the long days of debate and heated exchanges are dying down the passing guards put their head in less often within the hall, at least compared to recently.

    The masters empty out the suggestion box and write some of them down before burning the rest on the fire. The suggestion box is no longer open, and instead the contract and their words originally mentioned in simple terms for simple folk are posted alongside.

    Before they close for the night the discussions heard and overheard between them go something like this..

    "Well, i've been speaking to the other traders about it, have you."
    "Damn right i have",     is the reply
    The vanity plates proprieter replies "Well folk have been spending a lot of money in our place of late, its been good for business for you having the basement converted for us hasn't it."

    Overhearing this, the dwarven weapontrader says…
    "Of cours' ye down there may get all an sundry' down there, but we rely on them folk just makin theri way in tha world o death and danger it seems. Peltarch military 'ave their own places, they nae need our armour. Tis good for us if folk from other' towns come 'ere to buy their fine suits o armour, nae can get it many places…. Trouble is tha' union has been sellin finer suits down there, and we lose out sometime though we kin certainly make em jus as good.. It be the steel and all tha resources be 'ard te lay your 'ands on. Nae too keen on them for that, but if we are getting a piece o tha' union profits in future, well. At least thar be some kin in the union. That makes me proud."

    …

    "Well, i'm off to speak to some of the big boys, we get all sorts of fine folk down in that basement now. I even saw him looking at some shiney fullplate the otherday, thats his third set. Should have seen the shine and colours we put on it for him, it almost hurt my eyes", is also heard to be spoken by the charming vanity plates owner.

    …

    "Tha' other folk down by tha' commons been losing business te us fer years, wonder wot tha' union be good fer us as armour traders, ye 'ave been buying tha armours off tha boys in the back fer years, if they be gettin' new forges an' all tha' got te be good fer tha' sake o Moradin. "

    • are the sort of discussions heard among the dwarven traders in the building.

    "We'll listen a bit more i reckon to what folk 'ave to say, but after all the senate ave' the final word, we'll think a bit more on this, then see what they think before puttin what we want on tha' table for em to think about", states the armour crafting master before the end of the day.

    …

    The traders, the owners of vanity plates and the crafting masters then shut the door for the night as usual, lock the doors and bar them before staying up late into the night discussing matters.

    ...

    The following day they are open as usual, having moves some of the stock round in the weapon and armour shop to stay out of the way of where the contract is posted. They aren't looking too annoyed though as it has brought a lot of passing trade through it seems.


  • Depending on how steep the "token fee" is, and the terms of these "free commerce days", that sounds agreeable to me at least.

    I hardly claim to speak for independant crafters everywhere, though. We're not exactly organized, by definition.


  • looks to Oreth

    What i am thinkin about…and what I would like you to help me with plannin... is a proposal whereby you pay a token amount to gain access to select craftin tools....

    And then upon appointment, er perhaps on certain days of the month we have a "Free Commerce" area where all folks, Peltarch citizens or nay, can come to sell their goods.

    If folks come here to MAKE money, chances are they will SPEND some of it here as well! smles to Barrim I cant understand why we wouldnt want to take advantage o that...

    We can do these craft-bazaars on Union property if that would please the Senate...

    Whaddya say?


  • Oreth nods to Dwin

    If it is permitted, I will attend.

    And, for the record, regardless of whether we pay taxes, we do pay out plenty of money to the masters themselves for supplies, and so long as we are in the city, we are also likely buying clothes, food, inn-rooms…..

    I'm just a tree-hugging ignorant druid, so my knowledge of economics may be fatally flawed, but don't trade cities generally try to encourage outsiders to pass through and spend money? And as you said, we're not allowed to sell our wares here, only buy, so it would seem like we're a river of money flowing into this settlement, with nothing flowing back out...it sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me...

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    @d68f82537c=Shadow_Dragon:

    Captain Talgrath hears about all of this, and has his secretary pass this statement on to both Officer Strauss and the Dolvaks:

    "Both Officer Strauss and certain private citizens of Peltarch will cease this public display immediately. I will not have my men threatened and I will not have my men tossing around insults like this. If this continues, Officer Strauss will be charged under military law and I will have those who have threatened my officer charged as well. Grow up, all of you; this is a matter of law and politics, plead your cases through the law and the senate like adults."

    • Looks at Talgrath's Secretary as she/he walks into his shop. *

    "Relay dis message teh yeh boss:

    _yeh has lost control of yeh lad der… Strauss. Me think he have given himself deh rank of General anna has decided on his own wut be in deh best interest of city, its citizens, and merchants.

    Now, me nae take offense if dis was deh ferst time dis non crafting feller spoke wit ignorance of me affairs, but dis be about deh tenth, anna about things dat nae concern him.

    If yeh is truly his commandin officer, me suggest yeh reign him or me will be filin a complaint wit deh city about his constant "preachin about his religion" to those who craft.

    Me wonders if dat is against deh laws of dis fine city.

    If it is, do as you wish to prevent it.

    If yeh don't, me will go in front of deh Senate to continue me "public display" as yeh call it, to stop this babblin prophet from harassin all dat do not follow his god er agree with his preachin._

    Now you relay dat to him, anna tell him dat me is tired of hearin dis lad spout off about his religion… Many a war ave started o'er religious fanatics' werds. Anna from a public official no less! If Talgrath care to stop by me shop, me can detail some incidents of dis eer, Private."

    • Foilir smiles and has Nor offer fine ales and some food for the guest. Then quickly retreats to his office.*
  • DM

    @d3ec60abc6=Shadow_Dragon:

    Captain Talgrath hears about all of this, and has his secretary pass this statement on to both Officer Strauss and the Dolvaks:

    "Both Officer Strauss and certain private citizens of Peltarch will cease this public display immediately. I will not have my men threatened and I will not have my men tossing around insults like this. If this continues, Officer Strauss will be charged under military law and I will have those who have threatened my officer charged as well. Grow up, all of you; this is a matter of law and politics, plead your cases through the law and the senate like adults."

    Magistrate Barrim is heard to be pleasantly surprised with this statement of dedication to proper due process and military law and is heard to state. "The senate shall decide this i am sure, should they consult the populace on their decisions then that is their perogative. I can however understand the masters' reasons for posting their concerns as citizens who work with many independants also."


  • Dwin smiles and nods to kara

    Aye, lass… ya pushed me hand! This was an idea that we been kickin' around. Now that we see makes a wave of the hand toward Oreth and his knitting Circle that there is such DEMAND for this great hall, fer folks that aren't even tax-paying residents of his great city… I am considering some other options.

    The honorable Magistrate and I shall sit down later today and discuss some oher options and changes to the proposal. Perhaps we will even ask Oreth to accompany as well... we dont want to make these decisions in a vaccuum, after-all.

    Seeing the overflow of similar-looking ballots sticking out of the box, Dwin mutters to Barrim and shrugs

    I told ya that wasnt gonna be a proper way to do this…folks just cant be honest enough...a few bad ingots are enough to ruin a whole blade.


  • Kara approaches and drops a yes into the box, below that there are also suggestions

    Instead of pointless bickering, I would offer an alternative to keeping out independants. Peltarch citizens would be free to come and go but I would suggest charging non-peltarch citzens a small fee to use the premesis, so they are contributing to the city either way you look at it.

    This fee would either be collected by the union or Peltarch officials, then the union would be obliged to hand over what they recieved. Either way, I see no reason to end independant trading because there are a large number of us who have good reasons for not joining the union.


  • drops in a yes with a simple note scribbled below it

    Never made sense to me to allow non-citizens to craft here, but not be able to sell to merchants in your city. Union can help enforce that. There should be benefits to claiming Peltarch as your home.


  • Holding young noble guy on her left arm, Clandra walks past the crafting place. She scoffs at the notice, snuggles closer to the young lad with her silken clothes brushing against him.

    "I declare that I am against this."


  • Rando looks back at Oreth with a half smile and a chuckle


  • Several hundred pieces of scrap paper, vellum and parchment are dropped into the box each with a variation on the theme of "Fark of you Union tossers" or simply "No!"

  • The Halfling Defence League

    @ec423f9441=Oreth:

    And stop thinking so loud, damnit. I can practically hear you silently thinking to yourself that Strauss is talking rubbish, that he's crossed a line by insulting your personal friend, and that if he keeps it up he'll be dealing with you personally or something overdramatic like that. Quit it.

    :lol:


  • Oreth looks up from some stitchwork, sighing at all the arguing

    The crafting masters have never complained, to my knowledge, of misuse of their facilities, nor have they ever requested money to upkeep the area. I assumed that all the materials they sell paid for the overhead. I know that I myself have paid tens of thousands of gold in tanning kits and studs from the Master Tanner and the Blacksmith….

    He nods jovially to each

    But if any of them had said anything about needing more money to keep this place going, my purse would have been open so fast hins would be sent flying from the wind it caused. If a single one of them had ever complained about a mess, I would have grabbed a broom myself.

    Any claim you have that the independent crafters have somehow been abusing this place are blatantly false, and you all know it. I like to think that Dwin, at the very least, is better than that. I don't know shite-all about the rest of you.

    If you want to buy this place out, and force every other crafter in narfell to either join your group or, if they can't or won't, then resign their craft, then just shut up and hand the masters the money. But don't act like it's some moral duty of yours. It's business for you. Ruthless and calculated, and trying to make it sound benevolent just cheapens you even further.

    Now all of you shut up so I can concentrate on my damn sewing, or I swear to the gods I'm stitching all of your farking lips together in your sleep.

    Push it, and I'll make it your arseholes, too.

    He points at Rando

    And stop thinking so loud, damnit. I can practically hear you silently thinking to yourself that Strauss is talking rubbish, that he's crossed a line by insulting your personal friend, and that if he keeps it up he'll be dealing with you personally or something overdramatic like that. Quit it. Last thing I need is your thoughts in my brain. They're slimy.

    The druid grumbles and goes back to sewing


  • @f28f499ae8:

    c. Citizens may be asked to provide documentation to prove their Peltarch citizenship upon entering .

    This means that all non-citizens are hereby banned from the crafting hall.
    This would kill all indepent crafting in the whole Narfell region. Is this what the great Jewel of the Icelake wants?