Public Notice Placed in the Crafting Hall by the Masters
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Depending on how steep the "token fee" is, and the terms of these "free commerce days", that sounds agreeable to me at least.
I hardly claim to speak for independant crafters everywhere, though. We're not exactly organized, by definition.
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looks to Oreth
What i am thinkin about…and what I would like you to help me with plannin... is a proposal whereby you pay a token amount to gain access to select craftin tools....
And then upon appointment, er perhaps on certain days of the month we have a "Free Commerce" area where all folks, Peltarch citizens or nay, can come to sell their goods.
If folks come here to MAKE money, chances are they will SPEND some of it here as well! smles to Barrim I cant understand why we wouldnt want to take advantage o that...
We can do these craft-bazaars on Union property if that would please the Senate...
Whaddya say?
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Oreth nods to Dwin
If it is permitted, I will attend.
And, for the record, regardless of whether we pay taxes, we do pay out plenty of money to the masters themselves for supplies, and so long as we are in the city, we are also likely buying clothes, food, inn-rooms…..
I'm just a tree-hugging ignorant druid, so my knowledge of economics may be fatally flawed, but don't trade cities generally try to encourage outsiders to pass through and spend money? And as you said, we're not allowed to sell our wares here, only buy, so it would seem like we're a river of money flowing into this settlement, with nothing flowing back out...it sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me...
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@d68f82537c=Shadow_Dragon:
Captain Talgrath hears about all of this, and has his secretary pass this statement on to both Officer Strauss and the Dolvaks:
"Both Officer Strauss and certain private citizens of Peltarch will cease this public display immediately. I will not have my men threatened and I will not have my men tossing around insults like this. If this continues, Officer Strauss will be charged under military law and I will have those who have threatened my officer charged as well. Grow up, all of you; this is a matter of law and politics, plead your cases through the law and the senate like adults."
- Looks at Talgrath's Secretary as she/he walks into his shop. *
"Relay dis message teh yeh boss:
_yeh has lost control of yeh lad der… Strauss. Me think he have given himself deh rank of General anna has decided on his own wut be in deh best interest of city, its citizens, and merchants.
Now, me nae take offense if dis was deh ferst time dis non crafting feller spoke wit ignorance of me affairs, but dis be about deh tenth, anna about things dat nae concern him.
If yeh is truly his commandin officer, me suggest yeh reign him or me will be filin a complaint wit deh city about his constant "preachin about his religion" to those who craft.
Me wonders if dat is against deh laws of dis fine city.
If it is, do as you wish to prevent it.
If yeh don't, me will go in front of deh Senate to continue me "public display" as yeh call it, to stop this babblin prophet from harassin all dat do not follow his god er agree with his preachin._
Now you relay dat to him, anna tell him dat me is tired of hearin dis lad spout off about his religion… Many a war ave started o'er religious fanatics' werds. Anna from a public official no less! If Talgrath care to stop by me shop, me can detail some incidents of dis eer, Private."
- Foilir smiles and has Nor offer fine ales and some food for the guest. Then quickly retreats to his office.*
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@d3ec60abc6=Shadow_Dragon:
Captain Talgrath hears about all of this, and has his secretary pass this statement on to both Officer Strauss and the Dolvaks:
"Both Officer Strauss and certain private citizens of Peltarch will cease this public display immediately. I will not have my men threatened and I will not have my men tossing around insults like this. If this continues, Officer Strauss will be charged under military law and I will have those who have threatened my officer charged as well. Grow up, all of you; this is a matter of law and politics, plead your cases through the law and the senate like adults."
Magistrate Barrim is heard to be pleasantly surprised with this statement of dedication to proper due process and military law and is heard to state. "The senate shall decide this i am sure, should they consult the populace on their decisions then that is their perogative. I can however understand the masters' reasons for posting their concerns as citizens who work with many independants also."
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Dwin smiles and nods to kara
Aye, lass… ya pushed me hand! This was an idea that we been kickin' around. Now that we see makes a wave of the hand toward Oreth and his knitting Circle that there is such DEMAND for this great hall, fer folks that aren't even tax-paying residents of his great city… I am considering some other options.
The honorable Magistrate and I shall sit down later today and discuss some oher options and changes to the proposal. Perhaps we will even ask Oreth to accompany as well... we dont want to make these decisions in a vaccuum, after-all.
Seeing the overflow of similar-looking ballots sticking out of the box, Dwin mutters to Barrim and shrugs
I told ya that wasnt gonna be a proper way to do this…folks just cant be honest enough...a few bad ingots are enough to ruin a whole blade.
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Kara approaches and drops a yes into the box, below that there are also suggestions
Instead of pointless bickering, I would offer an alternative to keeping out independants. Peltarch citizens would be free to come and go but I would suggest charging non-peltarch citzens a small fee to use the premesis, so they are contributing to the city either way you look at it.
This fee would either be collected by the union or Peltarch officials, then the union would be obliged to hand over what they recieved. Either way, I see no reason to end independant trading because there are a large number of us who have good reasons for not joining the union.
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drops in a yes with a simple note scribbled below it
Never made sense to me to allow non-citizens to craft here, but not be able to sell to merchants in your city. Union can help enforce that. There should be benefits to claiming Peltarch as your home.
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Holding young noble guy on her left arm, Clandra walks past the crafting place. She scoffs at the notice, snuggles closer to the young lad with her silken clothes brushing against him.
"I declare that I am against this."
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Rando looks back at Oreth with a half smile and a chuckle
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Several hundred pieces of scrap paper, vellum and parchment are dropped into the box each with a variation on the theme of "Fark of you Union tossers" or simply "No!"
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@ec423f9441=Oreth:
And stop thinking so loud, damnit. I can practically hear you silently thinking to yourself that Strauss is talking rubbish, that he's crossed a line by insulting your personal friend, and that if he keeps it up he'll be dealing with you personally or something overdramatic like that. Quit it.
:lol:
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Oreth looks up from some stitchwork, sighing at all the arguing
The crafting masters have never complained, to my knowledge, of misuse of their facilities, nor have they ever requested money to upkeep the area. I assumed that all the materials they sell paid for the overhead. I know that I myself have paid tens of thousands of gold in tanning kits and studs from the Master Tanner and the Blacksmith….
He nods jovially to each
But if any of them had said anything about needing more money to keep this place going, my purse would have been open so fast hins would be sent flying from the wind it caused. If a single one of them had ever complained about a mess, I would have grabbed a broom myself.
Any claim you have that the independent crafters have somehow been abusing this place are blatantly false, and you all know it. I like to think that Dwin, at the very least, is better than that. I don't know shite-all about the rest of you.
If you want to buy this place out, and force every other crafter in narfell to either join your group or, if they can't or won't, then resign their craft, then just shut up and hand the masters the money. But don't act like it's some moral duty of yours. It's business for you. Ruthless and calculated, and trying to make it sound benevolent just cheapens you even further.
Now all of you shut up so I can concentrate on my damn sewing, or I swear to the gods I'm stitching all of your farking lips together in your sleep.
Push it, and I'll make it your arseholes, too.
He points at Rando
And stop thinking so loud, damnit. I can practically hear you silently thinking to yourself that Strauss is talking rubbish, that he's crossed a line by insulting your personal friend, and that if he keeps it up he'll be dealing with you personally or something overdramatic like that. Quit it. Last thing I need is your thoughts in my brain. They're slimy.
The druid grumbles and goes back to sewing
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@f28f499ae8:
c. Citizens may be asked to provide documentation to prove their Peltarch citizenship upon entering .
This means that all non-citizens are hereby banned from the crafting hall.
This would kill all indepent crafting in the whole Narfell region. Is this what the great Jewel of the Icelake wants?
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Captain Talgrath hears about all of this, and has his secretary pass this statement on to both Officer Strauss and the Dolvaks:
"Both Officer Strauss and certain private citizens of Peltarch will cease this public display immediately. I will not have my men threatened and I will not have my men tossing around insults like this. If this continues, Officer Strauss will be charged under military law and I will have those who have threatened my officer charged as well. Grow up, all of you; this is a matter of law and politics, plead your cases through the law and the senate like adults."
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Zyphlin happens to see the box, and slips a "No" into it
Just what we need, the Crafter Mob taking over peltarch property. It'll be open just long enough to make people think they got it fair, and then the "persuation" techniques will start up.
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Dwin scratches his chin
If they are independent crafters… and not even residents here... what do we care, then? And why do they have a voice in Peltarch politics anyway?
Dwin nods to Moe and tosses him an ale
Some folks just like to hear 'emselves talk, I guess.
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moe hops out of well used wheel barrow, leaving his ale cache in it for Dwin to utilize at hsi discretion
"hmmm, think they are daft? We are offering to rebuild, restock, replace, everything in these halls, out of our pockets so that they can have better facilities and they be complaining like little girls. But notice it is only the independent crafters who are not citizens of Peltarch who complain. Yet I bet they only come up here to use these halls and nothing else, if these halls were not here in Peltarch they would never come to the Jewel ever. Sounds a bit like abusing Peltarchs hospitality to me." shrugs "Even then, I'd still say if they become citizens I would be the first to welcome them to the new and improved Peltarch crafting halls."
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((rando has the patent on all such looks, I think ))
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(just for a point it was a Rando 'look' and in no way a verbal insult )