Looking for an evil god, Choose shar! ;)
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Yep
This was one of those things that the more I read lords of darkness and a few other things, I discovered more information about. The Dark Moon are a very strict, and exact, sect that requires strict obedience to thier leveling code amongst other things.It is also not the only way to be a sharran monk. One could easily be a sharran, be a monk, and still be dedicated enough to do all the same things a Dark Moon does, but they just wouldn't be part of that Order.
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I don't know… the description in some of the source material indicated that Sharran monks were required to multiclass in this way (join their order of the Dark Moon).
But I suppose you could be part of another order (Long Death, i. e.) and feel a close connection to Shar. Or as you suggested, Oreth, not be part of any order. But whether that's to Shar's likings or not, is another matter.... that doesn't really bother a true monk?
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Unless they choose not to multiclass at all, which is an option.
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@a1b9a4f2d2=Zyphlin:
I will try to get some of the information out of the Lords of Darkness about the dark moon monks. They are really a neat organization.
They are primarily a Monk/Sorc order, though straight monks could join it as well. They are the "martial" wing of the church of shar. They are generally her assassins, her spies, her informants and hitmen. They travel the lands at her or her clergies request, using thier skills to inflict or gain vengence for losses given and search for secrets.
Much like shar, they focus on the unseen and the darkness. Most likely their fighting style would be filled with dirty tactics, feints, misdirection, and other such tactics to create a very intricate and hard to read style.
Just to get back on topic…
... but shouldn't Sharran Monks be the most screwed of the monks? Their order requires them to have sorceror and monk within two levels of each other. Thus, a level 3 has to be a monk 2/sorc 1 or a monk 1/sorc 2?
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@bd2ce0f092=Jarcco:
@bd2ce0f092=Swoosh:
@bd2ce0f092=FUArch:
Meh, the icelace is rped as a sea, with boat access. Who cares, rp world, rp fun.
I have nothing against rping icelace as something with boat access and even flourishing trade-routes but rping it as a "sea" is just stupid.
:roll: :stupid:
Or should we just save the insults IG?
Personally, I think Icelace is big enough to warrant several trade routes which in turn should bring some sort of piracy into the picture as well. And as far as I know, there's no deity of lakes in Faerun, so why shouldn't Umberlee and her servants be interested in Icelace as well?
:2c:
No reason whatever. I think it's good fun to have umberlants in Peltarch and it fits in really well. And it's big enough to warrant as many trade-routes as you can think of and where there are trade-routes there are pirates.
my point: it's more of a big lake than a sea
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@81e87d75fa=Swoosh:
@81e87d75fa=FUArch:
Meh, the icelace is rped as a sea, with boat access. Who cares, rp world, rp fun.
I have nothing against rping icelace as something with boat access and even flourishing trade-routes but rping it as a "sea" is just stupid.
:roll: :stupid:
Or should we just save the insults IG?
Personally, I think Icelace is big enough to warrant several trade routes which in turn should bring some sort of piracy into the picture as well. And as far as I know, there's no deity of lakes in Faerun, so why shouldn't Umberlee and her servants be interested in Icelace as well?
:2c:
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@31a209b842=FUArch:
Meh, the icelace is rped as a sea, with boat access. Who cares, rp world, rp fun.
I have nothing against rping icelace as something with boat access and even flourishing trade-routes but rping it as a "sea" is just stupid.
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Eradicates you all
Just because he's semi-retired doesn't mean you can take over the thread to turn it into "my gods better than your god" pissing contest
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Pfff, we're still cooler
Banite for life
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Meh, the icelace is rped as a sea, with boat access. Who cares, rp world, rp fun.
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@1fbaf83ba7=FUArch:
@1fbaf83ba7=TheGnome:
The Church of Umberlee is recruiting
Like he said!
Bah! Umberlee is the path and true way.
We're in narfell, there aren't any seas within leagues
Actually Auril would be the most appropriate evilness in this area starts rolling an auril-worshipping mage who destroys his enemies with ray of frost
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@f38a97fa8f=TheGnome:
The Church of Umberlee is recruiting
Like he said!
Bah! Umberlee is the path and true way.
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I've had a sharran monk (going to multiclass as sorc) for some time now.
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As enticing as it sounds, I have enough trouble with the 2 characters I have now, but it's a good idea, sounds fun.
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Heh. I'll be very honest with everyone in what I'd love to see in a perfect world.
I would love to see 3-5 Warrior Types join with us as "Templar's". Either new characters, or perhaps already standing characters that wouldn't mind RPing out conversion as Shar as thier main patron. No problems with prayers to other gods, as long as Shar is the main one you would hold faith to. Neutal or Evil alignment works.
3-5 Monks of the Dark Moon. We have one currently. This could be straight monks, Monk/sorcs, or monk/rogues would all be fun. Much as the same at tome
Any number of Mages or Clerics, magic users bascally. Here would prefer having shar as your main diety and not many others at all. She is a natural fit for any mage with a darker side to them.
4-6 Rogues or Rangers. We have one already, and can always use more
Great for sneaky characters.That would be ideal and I'm sure a ton of fun. Probably never happen but who knows lol
Also, anyone thinking they wouldn't mind to have thier character possibly convert…let me know, and we can RP it out. I try not to convert unless someone is fine with it OOCly, so if you're up for possibly converting and want to RP it out, shoot me a PM
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I concur, in a time where Bane is the new bread and butter, Shar is a wonderful villainess who tends to get overlooked by many when deciding the nefarious tendancies of their characters. The most cunning, the most devious many might argue.
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Never to late to convert
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@85818feb44=Zyphlin:
A person who has suffered a great loss….a lover scorned them for another
ah man! that's perfect for Olivia since it's the reason why she turned to hate and darkness! wish i would have known that before :x Thanks for the info though!
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I might make one..im pretty bored
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Well. In the original post there is a link to a post in my coppermine gallery that is Shar's Faiths and Pantheon entry talking about her history, her dogma, her religion, and her clergy.
I will try to get some of the information out of the Lords of Darkness about the dark moon monks. They are really a neat organization.
They are primarily a Monk/Sorc order, though straight monks could join it as well. They are the "martial" wing of the church of shar. They are generally her assassins, her spies, her informants and hitmen. They travel the lands at her or her clergies request, using thier skills to inflict or gain vengence for losses given and search for secrets.
Much like shar, they focus on the unseen and the darkness. Most likely their fighting style would be filled with dirty tactics, feints, misdirection, and other such tactics to create a very intricate and hard to read style.
The beautiful part about Shar is its very easy to follow her without being hugely overtly evil. A person who has suffered a great loss….a lover scorned them for another, a mentor betrayed them, thier family murdered, thier fortune lost, etc...may find solace and understanding in Shar.
One who leads a secret life, doing many things under the table or constantly wrapping lies around them, may begin to follow shar and give her prayers to keep his secrets safe.
Those that stay to the darkness, use the night and dark alleys and shadows to thier advantage....to hunt, to hide, to protect, to live...may offer prayers to her.
People that find themselves living under the surface in the underdark or within caves may give her praises and follower her in hopse of her protection and keeping her safe in thier home.
Naturally, all of these can be taken to an extreme sense and a very evil sense. But as you see, she is a goddess that even those of good heart can easily fall to and yet still not seem like horrible being.
Outside of her hatred for her sister Selune and the battle currently raging with Mystra over thier weaves, Shar does not have a ton of goals. She pretty much lets her clergy and church do as they wish as long as they bring her converts and they promote her portfolios. This is mostly due to the fact that shar's main goal is to garner enough divine power and enough people praying to her to finally return the world to the nothingness it was at its beginning
