Olivia, Druids, and Peltarch's arrest
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The bald and weak woman speaks again quietly and slowly to the same speaker.
For me…. Oreth... isn't the ... one who... acted... evil.
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@75fce43835=Zyphlin:
Sorry. I agree with Oreth. I guess people around here have never seen grag down a heal potion and suddenly get back to full health. Or no one's ever used an invisibility potion in thier life. Guess they havn't realized that for some reason people will just be horribly stubborn cause they dislike peltarch or dislike druids and thus anything they do is bad, so will just heal someone out of no where. From what it sounds he knocked her back down to make sure she doesn't try anything like she's tried a long number of times.
We've got numerous stories from both sides. Oreth I've known to be truthful and generally speak level headed and not try to get on a pulpit constantly telling everyone how bad and horrible they are. I guess that's fine to do when its an issue you want to butt yourself into.
and…..who's butting in here?
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The druid/witch Raisa is seen but rarely of late. Whether due to the situation with Olivia or other circumstances, she has kept to herself, often retreating to her room in the inn or leaving for the Gypsy Camp without a word.
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Sorry. I agree with Oreth. I guess people around here have never seen grag down a heal potion and suddenly get back to full health. Or no one's ever used an invisibility potion in thier life. Guess they havn't realized that for some reason people will just be horribly stubborn cause they dislike peltarch or dislike druids and thus anything they do is bad, so will just heal someone out of no where. From what it sounds he knocked her back down to make sure she doesn't try anything like she's tried a long number of times.
We've got numerous stories from both sides. Oreth I've known to be truthful and generally speak level headed and not try to get on a pulpit constantly telling everyone how bad and horrible they are. I guess that's fine to do when its an issue you want to butt yourself into.
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Also in the back of the group, a pale and bald woman whispers with a meak voice and slowly in the previous commentator's ear
Evil deeds are evil deeds. By thinking you can behave like bad people when dealing with them you just become a bad person yourself.
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Continues to sit to the back of this argument, just smiling and laughing a bit
Murder Children and its okay cause they have a little bit of scales on them, give an extra kick to a woman that has tried to kill you and your family a half a dozen time…now that, THAT, is evil i tell you.
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Vrue, wandering around aimlessly as usual, listens to all of the arguments with a stoic face. He says nothing in response to anything nor can anyone tell what he thinks about the whole situation. He merely stands and listens to the whole procession then wanders off when it is over and he had heard everything that had been said.
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Alvar Blackwood walks by, listens to the arguments to make sure he got it all, and then replies to no one in particular:
"Seems like a private matter."
He then shrugs and continues along his way.
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Tiggles seems openly upset almost to the point of tears when she hears the rumors, muttering something about not wanting her families to fight.
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Lyte, speaks to Fadia in a serious, concerned tone
_"Well, sister, I was there.
Your husband didnt "subdue her for the guards".
Wolf subdued her, though she never ever fought back or resisted or drew a weapon. He was in bear form, and it took him quite a while, but he eventually bit and scratched her to the ground as she just stood there in one spot.
She could not have been more subdued by the end of it. The guards had possession of her and no one had healed her, and people had just gotten her to her feet so that the guards could take her, and she made no attempt to resist them taking her.
Raryldor, myself and others did our best to make it clear to everyone to stop the violence, as there was absolutely, undeniably no need for any further stupid attacks.
Wolf was still right there, he had stopped attacking her, and was making sure she wasnt going anywhere…not that she could, having already been concussed, and knocked unconsious and beaten within an inch of her life.
Oreth stood there watching this for some time, and then, out of the blue, charged in and beat her head in some more for no reason whatsoever, as the Peltarch guards yelled for him to stop.
I wasnt there at the very beginning to see what set Wolf off on her, so perhaps Olivia said or did something to provoke him, and thus I have no lasting issues with Wolf, and I have not spoken against Wolf's actions, other than to initially ask him to stop attacking her, once she was unconcious.
I arrived before Oreth however, and it is perfectly clear to me that Oreth's attack was simply taking advantage of someone helpless and captured in a vengeful, cowardly way that is every bit evil no matter who it is that does such an act.
I fought Olivia too, in the past, and did not see any reason to give a defensless, critically injured person a further beating.
I also asked Oreth multiple times for his reasons, which he never offered, instead stating he needed to "guard the prisoner" that he had mauled, who was near death, tied up, and being carried by two armored armed Peltarch soldiers and Wolf already.
I suspect that the only thing Olivia needed guarded from was Oreth, at that point.
I only choose to spoke on this openly because of Oreth's outrageous lies on the incident, and his repeated refusal to discuss what he had done, which of course, he refused to discuss, because there is no excuse for such beating someone helpless for enjoyment."_
she frowns looking quite perturbed by it all.
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Fad speaks up, finally
All of you, please. If you would just look at this situation and try to see things from Oreth's and Wolf's points of view, maybe that would help?
Olivia has tried to murder me, as well as my entire family, multiple times in the past. We did nothing to her to provoke this. In short…we were attacked solely for our religious beliefs, being that she follows the beastlord and we...well...don't. She violated the sanctity of holy grounds, and of holy creatures, in her attempts to slaughter us all. She even participated in rituals that summoned holy creatures of malar to hunt me, my family, and that also attacked Norwick.
And all my husband did was subdue her for the guards.
As for Wolf's actions...I will speak with him as well. I'm afraid I don't know the whole story, however, so bear with me.
Now then, I know I wasn't there. I know that I don't know the whole story. If we can all discuss this calmly, and without hurling names and threats as she eyes Rando at one another, maybe we could come to some sort of conclusion? After all, I know Wolf well, and I'm pretty sure that he wouldn't just up and attack someone for no reason.
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@fb608240e1=Rando:
Rando hears later about the assault and turns to Rugg
"she is Union, the next time i see anyone beating her i am going to step in and hand out some beatings myself. Let me know Rugg if anyone else lays a finger on her and i will go 'visit' them to 'show' them their 'errors'"
Rando wanders out of the gates and heads back to Norwick
*Ruggy looks to Rando, then the others and stuffs a cooked potato into the hole under his nose and begins to chew. Moments later, he is seen washing the potato down with a frothy mug of Dolvak Stout
Hrm.. Ef' Ah see sump'thin happen, Ah s'pose Ah tells ya, lad.
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//no, seriously, can we get this discussion out of the rumors thread? It doesn't belong here, as it's not a rumor but an argument.
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_Wolf, now being called a savage and evil druid, stands silent in the background, listening to all of this. He now wanders about, rarely speaking to anyone. Even if they should talk to him, he would walk by or ignore them.
His expression is distant and he does not look at all happy._
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Nyda steps forward "I would call for calm. Throwing allegations and accusations around does no-one any good. I agree both that her original crimes against the Circle were bad, and that the retribution sought by Wolf and Oreth was unnecessarily brutal and violent. When the Peltarch officials arrived on the scene what you forget in all this is that Wolf was at the time trying to saw her head off with his scimitar. That is not the act of a rational or sane man trying to bring a criminal to justice. Oreth has assuredme he will personally speak with Wolf and has vowed to prevent further such attacks on Olivia once the charges in Peltarch have been dealt with and she is free again. Please, violence to each other in plain view of the hobgoblins and orcs who daily threaten Jiyyd and the Sisterhood house is ill conceived and makes fools of you all."
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Just kind of sits back and laughs at the entire situation, doubly loud when rando starts making threats
Uh-oh. The tyrant lord of Norwick is making threats for her saftey…how could she NOT be a good person.
looking about a bit more
You know. You'd think people so adamant about circle buisness would keep to thier own lessons. Heh, odd.
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Lyte stands waiting finally for the answer to her question, but still, it never comes. As he walks away, she points out his final lie.
"You lie once more when you claim I call your compatriot names. The names are reserved for the one who earned them."
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Rando hears later about the assault and turns to Rugg
"she is Union, the next time i see anyone beating her i am going to step in and hand out some beatings myself. Let me know Rugg if anyone else lays a finger on her and i will go 'visit' them to 'show' them their 'errors'"
Rando wanders out of the gates and heads back to Norwick
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I wasn't there for the fight with Wolf. I don't know how many times she could have escaped. I saw a crowd of people, two peltarch officials trying to make an arrest, Olivia, someone I know to be treacherous, dangerous, and cowardly, neither bound nor held, resisting and clamoring her innocence, and a bunch of sisterhood types getting in the way. I simplified the situation, and delivered her into the hands of the law. She is not dead, and she will stand trial for at least one of her crimes.
I told you at the time that I would explain my actions to you later, if you asked, but that there were more important issues to see to at the time, like the farking prisoner. You never came to see me. You never asked again. Instead you chose to begin calling me and my compatriot names, with all of Jiyyd as your soapbox.
I am finished discussing this with you, Lyte. All that I have said, stands. If you wish to continue arguing it, argue it with the air.
Oreth pushes past, disappears into the undergrowth, and is gone
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@e3c7a87383=Oreth:
Well then. Since everyone seems to be standing up and giving long testimonials on the subject to the town at large, I may as well join the parade.
Olivia tried to kill myself, and my family. Apart from that, she's assaulted my wife on two occasions, and myself on one, before we ever raised a hand to her. She robbed a friend of mine of everything she owned, and plotted to have another, good friend of mine killed. Additionally, she had a hand in decorating my home with the wasted entrails of a holy animal for the sheer amusement of it.
A sound beating about the head a few years ago doesn't wipe out her crimes, or make her less of a danger in the present. I think it's ridiculous to assume so. "Oh, I guess we survived your attack, so it's okay that you tried to kill us all, and will probably do so again as soon as it suits you, better luck next time"? Absurd.
Furthermore, she was not in custody of the peltarch guards. She was unbound, and standing free. As adventurers, I would think you would all have a bit of sense. I can gulp a potion, return myself from death's doorstep to the picture of health, and be off and running in no time. The best way to prevent an escape is to make sure the prisoner is unconscious and tied. Which I did. Rather effectively, and without any undue injury beyond what was necessary to render her unconscious.
By any standard, we had every right to kill her. She tried to do the same to us, and more. But we relinquished her, gladly, to the guards of peltarch, and then escorted them and their prisoner north. We were merciful, and cooperative, and you paint us as brutal and bloodthirsty.
If I wanted to be brutal, she'd be rather painfully dead, rather than nursing a scimitar-hilt-induced headache in a peltarch jail. And if I were bloodthirsty, you can bet your life that a couple blows to the head wouldn't have even begun to slake my thirst.
As it stands, Olivia is locked away where she can harm nothing and no one, and my conscience is clear.
And in the future, if you have doubts about the motives and actions of the Circle, or myself in particular, farking well ask, like Grag and Nyda did, before you start blathering on about how we're all savages.
Oreth walks off shaking his head, muttering to himself in chultan
Lyte moves in front of him before he can escape from his lies with a cold look about her
_"I damn well did ask you, specifically, in front of everyone present, including Raryldor and Wolf, your "motives" for attacking the defenseless, already battered to unconsiousness woman.
You decided not to answer, beyond giving the ludicrous lie that you were preventing her "escape".
You are a liar now for pretending that I didnt ask you repeatedly, arent you?
And of course, Fadia is my sister, and I was there at the forefront, fighting Olivia, and who do you think it was standing over dead Arthro when he fell in the Glenn? Who was it that wrested that fiery blade from his dead fingers?
So, there isnt any difference in the way we feel about Olivia. She has attacked me, she has attacked my friends and family as well, but this was many, many years ago.
Smacking her like a coward when she is already beaten to a pulp and under arrest accomplished you exactly what?
Olivia was in the Peltarch soldiers hands when you attacked her. This is a fact. Raryldor and I and others asked for everyone to calm down, and Olivia was in no danger whatsoever of escaping. Even the Peltarch soldiers screamed for you to stop attacking her…this is the simple truth.
If she was going to run, or fight, she could have done so healthy, when Wolf first attacked her...she didnt. She stood there and took the beating.
Wolf knocked her unconsious completely bloody, defenseless and beaten. She was no longer a threat to Wolf. He had stopped smacking her. She was no longer a threat to the soldiers, or to you. She was helped up to be taken by the Peltarch Guards who were on either side of her when you decided to beat her more.
You lie when you claim otherwise, just as you lie when you claim I did not ask you, more than once, to explain you actions.
It is your actions that are absurd.
The proof of this is the fact that you are not going to be able to tell me here and now how your needless, cowardly attack on her, after she was defenseless, accomplished anything, except to hurt the reputation of your Circle.
If you dont want to be treated like a savage, dont act like one, and dont lie about your reasons for pointless attacks on helpless, defeated people.
So, what, Oreth, did you accomplish in attacking her?
What, exactly?_
she crosses her arms and waits with a cold emotionless face
