Game of Thrones
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So now that the season finale has aired, I am curious if anyone else has been watching this series on HBO and what people have thought of it.
SPOILER WARNING!!!!!
this may spark discussion of things from the show as well as various things from the book series so far. If you have not seen the show but want to, or have not read the books but want to, or are only one book in or so, read on with caution as there may be many things, including some of the series' bigger surprises, mentioned here, as people may discuss things that happen in books 2,3,4 and if this thread is still alive after july 12th, 5.
That being said i think HBO did a very good job translating the series so far. There have been minor changes, (scnenes not in the books, lines given to characters that were spoken by different characters in the book, etc) but considering that cable networks dont get to work with budgets as large as say a major studio's, they have done a great job with the effects and locations. The casting has been stellar for the most part and i understand the reason for aging some of the children characters a few years from what the book ages were (it actually involved laws a bout child pornography and such) given what happens to some of these kids.
a few things i didnt like as much:
1. The casting for Joffery…while the kid does a good job of pulling off the total ass joffery is, he jsut seems too young almost and too short compared to the other kids he is around (he is supposed to be a tall kid in the books). From what i understand, the origional casting for joffery was supposed to be the kid playing King Arthur in the Camelot series, but he left GoT because he got offered the lead in Camelot.
2. The casting for king robert...Although Mark Addy did a great job as fat robert, he was just way to short for the role..Robert, even fat robert, was still supposed to be roughly 6ft 6 not under 6 ft. The same goes for the casting of Renly, Roberts younger brother...was supposed to look like a young Robert so should of looked more like a warior i suppose and less like a courtier.
anyway just a few things to get this started!
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Disregard this I suck
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@3b6affcbe0=AubreyMaturin:
My favorite Twitter Response was:
"Why doesn't Geroge R. Martain use Twitter?"
"Because he's already killed all 140 characters."
HAH
Edit: I think my favorite part was "KILL BILL, KILL BILL RIGH-NOOO!"
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I've been waiting for that episode to air for a long time. I just wanted to see the reaction in all the poor schmucks who never read the books.
Notice in that Youtube video you can tell who had and who had not read the book.
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SPOILER ALERT!!!
If you haven't read the books and didn't watch episode 9 of Season 3 yet (and you intend to), then stop reading this post and any that come after it. You have been warned.
Reactions to the Red Wedding Episode:
My favorite Twitter Response was:
"Why doesn't Geroge R. Martain use Twitter?"
"Because he's already killed all 140 characters."
AubreyMaturin
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Winter is coming…again.
Man, I wish I had HBO...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EhFCdRcL2Y&feature=player_embedded
Season 3 premiers tonight for those of you who can afford HBO.
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Fortunately we did get to see a nice battle scene this season… It didn't play out at all the same way it did in the books, it was much less epic on screen due to time and budget constraints. I can forgive that, it's just unfortunate we didn't get to see a good naval battle, or the giant chain.
They decided to make Stannis into an action hero as well, I understand that since it could be boring to watch him issuing orders from the safety of his command post behind the front lines. I just dislike how reckless this makes him seem. Stannis is actually a very shrewd, careful, and patient General. He is another one of those characters I didn't like much at first, but as I got to know him through various POV's, I totally became a Stannis supporter, I actually think he would make a good King. He's all about the duty and doesn't necessarily want the throne, it is simply his by law.
On the other hand you have a young girl who knows only what her psychopathic older brother has filled her head with, and the schemes of a fat, shady, old spice merchant with delusions of grandeur. I like Dany, I just don't think she is destined to be this shining white beacon of hope for Westeros like a lot of people seem to think. Every time a Targaryen is born, the Gods flip a coin, I think she is destined to be the next Mad Queen. Fire and blood, after all.
I don't think much needs to be said about Joffrey, he is a monster that Cersei created. He has similar ideas when it comes to the Throne, raised to believe it is something that belongs to him. He is infinitely worse than Daenerys, however, and never willing to listen to wise council.
Everyone loves Arya, and I like her too, but my favorite POV is probably Jon Snow. I feel like ever since that first scene with the White Walker in season one, North of the Wall is where the real story is, everything else somewhat meaningless to me. None of that matters when Winter is here, too bad it's taking so long!
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The best villains are always the ones that make you question your own belief. That's why I don't find Joffrey or the White Walkers to be villains, so much as more akin to a flood or a tornado or the Great Depression. Not when the rest of the Lannisters are running around being awesome.
However, with the exception of Arya, I find myself not giving two shits about the Starks.
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@24b9896ba5=MexicanCookie:
Spoiler Alert: (sort of)
I look forward to seeing how hard my wife throws the remote through the TV during the Red Wedding. :twisted:
…the red wedding is one of the BEST parts of the series. Yes, if people went nuts over the execution of Ned Stark they are going to go absolutely insane when they air the red wedding!
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My roommate and I finally went and rented the whole first season back during the spring. Sat down and marathoned the show and absolutely loved it. Since then I have watched the entire second season as well. I bought and read books 1-5 this summer. I am a bit depressed now looking at Martin's track record for writing and releasing previous novels. I've been trying to find anything to occupy my time book wise since I finished Dance with Dragons.
I think they did a fantastic job translating the books to a tv series. I don't think I've ever seen it done so well, right down to the dialogue! Granted there are some scenes that change things a bit, and it kind of irks me, but it isn't bad. Watching the second season, I kept leaning over and telling one of my roommates, who hasn't read the books, "it doesn't happen like that in the book." Hahah.
Arandor, I completely agree on Jamie Lannister! I thought the character was a total ass and hated him. Then I got to reading his POV and have come to a complete change of heart. He is also one of my favorites now. I've found that happens a lot. I get to liking a character, then suddenly I get a new point of view. I always dread starting to read the new characters POV, completely uninterested…then I get to reading more and more and before I know it I'm hooked on another POV/plotline. All with the exception of Cersei...getting her point of view did nothing to change my mind, in fact, it made it worse. Hate that b****.
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I was a bit bummed out to see some of the Narf NPC's names came from the novels once I started reading them.
Especially the Onion Knight–one of my favorite GT characters and one of my least favorite Narf NPC's (atm).
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I have enjoyed the TV series and jsut finished A Dance of Dragons.
Winds of Winter cannot come soon enough in my opinion.
The TV series has been very good, yet it missed alot of details and cut a few stories short (Arya notably).
Yet the one thing that i really hated about the TV series was WHY THE HELL DID THE DRAGONS GET STOLEN!! And why did they kill the thirteen! WHY?! There was no need for it!
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Spoiler Alert: (sort of)
I look forward to seeing how hard my wife throws the remote through the TV during the Red Wedding. :twisted:
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Season 2 was good aswell. I love The Hound. "If anyone dies with a clean blade, I'll whip his corpse!"
That scene in the tavern with The Hound and Bronn was one of my favorites. Seeing this show and the characters is very inspiring, I wish Narfell could be as mature as this show.
"Killings the sweetest thing there is.."
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Dinklage is stealing the show, though all the Lannisters are well cast. And I think this has been some of Sean Bean's best work.
Having read the books, I fear the pace of the series will rob fans of the depth of the characters involved, and the agony the reader goes through watching as their favorites are torn down (or apart, as the case may be). But… the same can be said of every great literary fiction brought to the small or big screen.
For those that haven't read the books, they are very good, though the author's reluctance at continuing the story is frustrating. However, for those of you that are fans of the concept of "gray areas" in character alignment will love how he takes every established character and turns them on their heads so you never really know who you should be rooting for.
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I like Mord too.
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I've read all the books and think they've done a great job so far. I like the actors in it, they represent the characters good. I've actually begun to like more characters I never did in the books while watching the show.
As for Joffrey, yeah, maybe not as tall but that kid, I want to punch him in the face much like the books. Also, the Mountain is a great cast when he loses the jousting and gets off his horse, gets his sword and cuts it head off. I just sort of blinked and then laughed, seemed so Mountain like.
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you see Rickon briefly in the first episode (he is the little sitting on a fence or something like that, laughing at Bran when Bran misses hiss hot while practicing the bow, and again when the Starks are all lined up to recieve King Robert)
Rob mentions Rickon by name in the 2nd episode when he is talking to Caetlyn about how she needs to rest and how Rickon needs her( "Rickon needs you. he's only six, he doesnt know whats happening, he clutches my leg all the time crying") right before he runs off to fight the fire and Summer rips out the throat of the assassin.
You are right though they don't mention Shaggydog at all (or even see him) until that final episode
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I swear that they never showed nor spoke of the youngest Stark kid, Rickon, until the last episode in the crypt. Nor did "shaggy dog" (my favorite name of them all) get any mention until then. Did I miss him in earlier scenes?
I'm halfway through the first book, so I am reading this carefully.
cant put it down!
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SPOILER WARNING!!!!1!
I like how the TV show lets us all make the same assumptions of Jamie Lannister, the Kingslayer, as characters in the show do. Unforgivable, his acts may seem, but by the time I got to hear his side of things in the third book, I started to have a change of heart. He's one of my favorites now.
I hope the viewers get to experience that as well.
My only complaint so far is the noticeable lack of any epic battle scenes. Many of the major characters are caught up in a war that we don't even get to see. I get the reasoning, Battle Scenes are expensive and this show would be expensive enough given the filming locations. I'll bet the loss of Sean Bean doesn't hurt the budget, though.
I just hope that in season two, since they should be able to reuse a lot of costumes and set pieces, and not pay Sean Bean, that we'll get to see some time and money put into a couple battle sequences.
