Those who work in the shadows



  • Oh, I think anything that gets put in the forums has a chance of being metagamed, and yeah that includes "good" plans and motives, by Evil groups.

    But whatever, sorry for getting so off track Adric.
    I play a pretty well-known open follower of an Evil God, so if you have a PC that is looking for an ally, need a hand, or just want to throw an idea/plan out and see who wants in on it, go ahead and shoot me a PM or Tell IG.



  • Really wasn’t opening it up for discussion, but giving general advice on how to post in a public forum. But remember any such post is a 2 way street, meaning that anything achieved thwarting “good” person/NPC/town’s plans by an evil group can be viewed in the same light. I.E. that clearly the group or someone in the group metagamed the public information. I am sure you would not be happy with that implication nor the how it would detract from what was achieved. It’s a pretty unpleasant thing to insinuate. Rather than generalising in a public forum try and keep things in a more positive vein and if you have proof that metagamig has occurred then bring it to the team. If not then I just view this as sour grapes or hearsay.

    Sorry Adric for the hijack of your thread, which is ended (get the hint there 🙂 )
    Back on track and continue on with the show.

    Also please note this post is not directed at anyone in particular.



  • Despite what DM A&B said, I still agree with Metagod Summoner and Oddba11.

    Sorry chaps, it just happens. Am I calling the entire server metagamers? Of course not, but if the shoe fits…

    Note: These are opinions of Ace-of-Spades, not to be misinterpreted as anything but.



  • @a0a2b55832=Adric:

    I understand Evil is hard, and I don't intend to start trying to carrying out my evil plans till lvl 7.

    Generally a very bad idea.

    If you have a plan, don't wait for level X to come along. Start getting the plan set into motion from day one.

    As a rule of thumb: If you want to not get killed as a solo evil, make a lot of friends. That's just common sense, but more often than not, 'evil' is used as an excuse to be rude. Clever evil, I always thought, is exceptionally 'nice', at least as long as you don't get in the way of their plans.

    And yes, what was said above already.



  • You have a point. And I've been looking for someone to have Veska professionally affiliated with. :twisted:


  • The Halfling Defence League

    @6c95abcc67=Pyrus:

    dark red eyes stare quietly at… adric.... then kills him... 😉

    Oh so that’s why the government body that handles the unemployed had me down as dead, that’s good to know…

    I understand Evil is hard, and I don't intend to start trying to carrying out my evil plans till lvl 7.

    Evil do work well together, when they work together properly at first it won't work... no just watch the original Batman movie, the old one with shark repellent. Except baneites they are horrible. However the you scratch my back and I won't stab yours works well.

    Those who metagame should be ashamed of themselves, and should have nasty things done to them...

    Than there's the point I'm generally on from 6:00pm till 11 or 12pm (+10 GMT) 70 to 80% of the time I'm on I'm the only one on... What paladins? And I’m not always a evil PC, I have others, death is not an ending mealy a diversion.



  • We are just giving advice to this player so they can have a more smooth chance of playing evil. I am not saying every -single- person in this community metagames, in fact, it is extremely rare here. Most of the time, it is a slip up on a player's part because they accidently put something they knew OOCly (ex: something they read on the forums that was OOC) into something their character does IC. I've done that myself, I'm only human. And that one slip up can spread throughout the entire server, which in turn can screw up a character.

    Maybe I should've added "accidental metagaming" in there too.



  • You also don't need to be high level to play Evil… just to play Blatant Evil.

    Narfell has had plenty of successful evil characters... many of whom are not, well, obviously evil out in the open.

    In general though, it is best not to play evil unless you don't mind having your plans foiled and your character shunned, hated, and sometimes killed. Wages of sin folks!



  • All these accusations of metagaming get fairly tiresome, if you have proof go through the correct channels if not its pretty poor show and frankly gets tiring. Just assuming you were found out by metagaming a)Is insulting to each and every other player out there b)ludicrously self absorbed.
    Yes evil is hard to play on Narfell as in many games, mainly because it’s a world of heroic adventure. Therefore in essence evil will always be apposed and looked out for.



  • Also, evil doesn't always work well with evil. It might, but during Ezakiel's evil period, if you weren't a fellow Banite and selling you out would have helped him out, or not doing so might have risked himself, he wouldn't have thought twice about it.



  • definitely.
    your best bet is to only contact via pm or irc the people who you know already play evil pc's as their MAINS and start planning , through them you can network and find other people with similar interests in mind,. once you start doin stuff in game send your underhanded dealings to a dm, that might be willing to do something with it, in a pm or tell in game.
    but yeah if your evil at lvl 1 some paladin is going to catch it before your able to do anything and once that happens you can expect everyone to immediately know your evil, but of course, posting your evil in the forums skips the paladin catching ye step and goes straight to no one trusting you cause they "think you might be evil"


  • ICC

    Yup, that's for certain.



  • And posting your plans on the forums is a no no. You'll get metagamed… trust me.


  • ICC

    Dood, evil on Narfel is hard. You've got to first get to high enough level where people won't bother you, then come out of the closet. Otherwise the goody goodies will beat you down before you get a chance to do some major bad mojo, savvy?


  • ICC

    :twisted:


  • The Halfling Defence League

    dark red eyes stare quietly at… adric.... then kills him... 😉