Rando jibber-jabber pulled from Rumor Thread
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@46a47bab03=Araighn:
Rando's crimes, some of which may have not taken place in the actual walls of Jiyyd, but still took place in Jiyyd territory.
::Speaks openly, although seemingly to Theaon, ignoring any who listen and not altering his words for the others::
_As i said, i am not taking Rando's side. But the "territory" you speak of isnt really fair to prosacute him on. I myself, my freinds, family and even The Leigon have attacked people in what you are counting as the duristiction of Jiyyd. And at the time it wasnt really Jiyyds terrotry, but just the road leading to Jiyyd.
I have more reason to want to see Rando gone than most people. I have wanted to see him dead dozens of times as i said. But i do wish to see anyone given a chance. Last i heard he was dead.. But here he is grins faintly
Point is, there are actully no grounds on which we can prosacute him. Well, thats not true, but none that are truely fair. Test him under a truth spell, and you will have your answers ._
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@041c6c52dc=Sethan:
I don't think Jiyyd law mentions a statute of limitations on kidnapping or assault.
Catching this, you foul-mouthed dwarfen priestess of Umberlee pipes up…
"Fark sake. We be gettin' mighty uppity wi' our learnin' fer a midden heap shite-pile o' a peasant coop."
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Will shrugs, hearing the discussion
Whether he is a banite or not just determines whether he is banned on that basis.
There is still the issue of the alleged crime committed in Jiyyd that must be addressed.
Rando's character and past history do not speak well for him on the likelihood that the allegations are true. but the Council will decide on the evidence.
As to the question of the time passed since, I don't think Jiyyd law mentions a statute of limitations on kidnapping or assault.
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@84477c13ab:
THe only thing that needs to be done is to test Rando of his so-called baniteyness
_"Wrong Wog. We do not let people get away with crimes no matter how long ago it was. Rando's crimes, some of which may have not taken place in the actual walls of Jiyyd, but still took place in Jiyyd territory. And you do not drag someone out of town against their will to beat them. That's just wrong.
I'm sure Lyte's given the council and the militia all the information they need to know. Hopefully they'll handle it from here and make the right decision."_
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Wog who just happened to be nearby, completly incoinceidently buts in at this point
"_Look, No point in argueing.. THe only thing that needs to be done is to test Rando of his so-called baniteyness. And if he is, then he is banned from town according to Jiyyd law, well as far as i know anywyas, havnt had a positioon here in 20 years.. But i rpesume all banites are still prhibated.
If he is not a baneite then i'm afraid there is no reason why he cannot enter town. All the allergations happened outside of Jiyyd's boundries.
And i'm not taking Rando's side here ::gives him an odd smile, but with no warmth:: We are not exactly freinds, and at times i'd have prefered to see him deader than a common orc. And i'm sure he has thought the same considering he has attacked me on a number of occasions. But on the matter if he is truley evil or not.. I have never been sure, even after our almost fatal disagreemnts in the past, He has saved my life a number of times. I dont know if hes evil, just that he can not be a very nice person.
But frankly, who cares, this land is filled with evil. If he is banite he is banned, if he isnt he is not according to the laws.
Find someone who can cast a truth spell..
THere is no need for this petty argueing_"
Wog turns back to whatever he was doing ebfore this with an annoyed look on his face
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_" for what? for something i may or may not have done 10 years ago? yeah right. don't go around insulting me… i would take up a duel with you anytime..... i win i walk, you win you arrest me
Charges if there is any have to be made by the person who i acted against, i was outside the town walls, that is where your laws stop and yes in norwick our laws did stop at the town gates.
its funny you bring up stuff that are so old after i have walked in and out of this town since freely, why not press charges then? because you had no grounds too as no crime was committed"
I wish to speak to the council, not the monkey who does not know what she talks about
its right the only way you got promoted was because you were good in bed_
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//I've tried hard to keep this as rumors, but you fellows have pulled it into a back and forth conversation, and this should all get moved elsewhere.//
A confrontation is rumored to have occured in Jiyyd
_"Rando, you are a liar.
We all know that you are a liar already, and that you will win no truth contests with me. This is a joke, and you are unarmed for any debate requiring credibility.
The official boundaries of Jiyyd, at that time, were the big rock near the Sisterhood. You were within Jiyyd the entire incident!
Norwick's town limits didnt end at the gate, at that time, neither did Jiyyds. You well know this already! Your transparent lies dont change that.
I have spoken to all the witnesses that were there, and I saved their statements, back when this occured, and before you ran away, which is MOST unfortunate for you.
You and Belade were on the benches of Jiyyd when you drug her off to beat her to the ground, which is kidnapping, and you were within touching distance of the west gate of Jiyyd when you attacked the unarmed paladin, which is assault.
You were inside Jiyyd, in front of dozens of witnesses whenever you claimed to be the law, a treasonous sort of thing to do, when you are and were at that time no such thing, and you then dragged the woman out of town.
After she was on the ground, you and the evil masked priest attempted to drag her further away…conspiracy to murder.
You are a liar, Rando, which we can easily prove by testing us both under strident conditions and consulting all the witnesses. You broke most of the laws of Jiyyd that day...and you fled, pure and simple.
I hope you are ready for some tests as to your truthfulness. I know I am.
Oh, and you are under arrest."_
//I'm off on a signing for the weekend, headng out the door. I saved the complete log of that whole original incident a long while back, and I've found it, and will send it to the Jiyyd DM as witness testimony.
If Rando wants to flee, fine, Lyte isnt dumb enough to chase him too far.
If he wants to attack her in town, I want at the least Dwin and Grag there, as Rando has RPed he has been talking with them during this. Obviously, there are witnesses in Jiyyd.
If Rando wants to let himself be placed under arrest, thats fine too, but this needs to lead to an in game conclusion, in my opinion.
Be back in game Monday, my apologies for leaving you hanging.//
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Rando Laughs
_It all took place OUTSIDE Jiyyd and that was ten plus years ago. How come no one came to arrest me during those ten years if i broke the law or even filed charges. Hell i used to visit Jiyyd all the time and no one even mentioned it.
I have fought a few duels which have resulted in peoples deaths, but they are duels of honour and i was the victor, its my right to spare them or not as champion.
In ref to the pallie, she insulted me and i called her out. I am quite within my rights to do that and it TOOK place OUTSIDE of Jiyyd.
I would like to Know who i tried to Kidnap? i am being accused of stuff that i have not even done.
Rule of thumb is, don't go around insulting me if you don't like getting a good kicking if i take offence.
No charges have been laid against me with even any proof, so how can you arrest me or do you like to make it up as you go along?
Maybe Jiyyd was a better place when Grag commanded here, now it seems its full of lying whiners."_
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Watch Sgt. Lyte is rumored to have responded to the rumors of Rando wanting to step into Jiyyd with a calm, clear speech for all to hear.
_"Rando committed multiple crimes in front of me and many others in Jiyyd, and then moved away to Norwick years ago to avoid prosecution. These crimes included assault, kidnapping, conspiracy to commit murder, and with another thug, , perhaps worst of all, he tried to establish himself by force of arms as "executioner", and his evil crony as the "law" and "judge" inside of Jiyyd.
They threatened all who opposed to stop them from carrying out their self appointed "law" in Jiyyd with violence.
This smacks of being a traitorous action to me, for in putting oneself in the place of the legal government of Jiyyd, attempting to upsurp it's council and militia, and ignoring it's actual laws altogether, Rando clearly made himself an enemy of the town, and should be tried for this.
He and his masked companion claimed these traitorous positions loudly, before taking action and kidnapping and assaulting the paladin, in front of over a dozen witnesses. They then loudly talked of dragging her away, which in my mind meant murder, as she was already on the ground.
Running away after committing crimes does not absolve one from justice. Rando seems to believe that the passage of years somehow now frees him from the responsibility of his deeds.
Not so.
Until someone higher up, Jus'tine or the Council, tell me otherwise, I will arrest Rando if he is found inside the new gate near the Sisterhood, and as far as the last of the farmlands east of town."_
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Dwin quickly turns to Just'ene or whoever the person pretending to be in charge is and asks…
Is he banned or nay? I don't recall the Council votin on it. If he's banned, lets hear it now, and what the reason is so we can all move ahead.
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Rando is sitting on the rock and says to now one in particular
"I was there too at my death and i never admitted to being a Banite either. I was to busy fighting the 10 guards that tried to pin me down so Lucious could stab me in the neck whilst i was held down, it was all very noble."
Rando nods to Dwin and Grag like he would do to people he has know and respected for years
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General Grag just shakes his head at the going ons and passes the note on to the proper people as he seems to have no power inthis matter….
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Dwin speaks up.
Yer all paranoid about this banite shiite! I was there at Rando's execution, and I can tell ya that the one topic that WASN'T discussed was him bein' a banite.
Say what ya want about his past actions, test him with nekkid she-elves, but dont go around sayin he admitted to bein' a banite at the time of his death. It didnt happen and it aint true.
If you dont want him in town, then have a REAL reason fer it, not some shiite about who or what he may or may not believe in. Tis silly.
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_As Theaon hears the rumors about him being a liar, he just shrugs
"Go ahead and test me for lies. I was told Rando admitted adherance to the Banite faith before his death by someone else. I trust this individual's word and that he would not make something like this up.
Regardless of his faith, he has committed other acts of evil near Jiyyd such as beating up General Lyte and the paladin Belade. That enough should get him banned."_
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:: Wog often comments whenever he heres Rando ebing bought up that if anyone sees Rando to tell Rando to come see him, and that he'll need a BIG hug for the nasty time people are giving him ::
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*Rumors float about amongst the Jiyyd militia that Rando isnt in any position to dictate any of the questions that are put to him, especially because of his past actions, attacking an unarmed paladin at Jiyyd's gates, and then attacking Lyte of the legion, who came to the paladin's aid, some years back. Comments are made that these evil actions are why Rando left Jiyyd to begin with.
Jiyyd Watch Sgt. Lyte is now rumored to have offered to submit to be stripped of clothing and all trinkets in a careful search under a true seeing spell, if Rando will also, and be dispelled along with Rando, and then to have her heart checked along side of his.*
_"Perhaps Rando has repented his wickedness and his heart is no longer black. This is possible. It is unfair to submit just him to any embarrassment if his heart is now true. We will be tested together.
"Obviously", the elven woman is rumored to have stated, "if he refuses, his true nature is told in his fear to be tested in such a manner.
If he has changed for the better, I am all about redemption, and for my part, have no problem having him in town.
If he wont, do we want someone in Jiyyd whose morals allow attacking unarmed paladins in town, beating them to the ground, with utter disregard for the laws of the town?"_
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@af71831e3a=Green:
Jiyyd Watch Sgt. Lyte is now rumored to have offered to submit to be stripped of clothing and all trinkets in a careful search under a true seeing spell, if Rando will also, and be dispelled along with Rando, and then to have her heart checked along side of his.*
Sale of tickets for this event will be first come first serve only. Jerr is heard to say when he hears of Lytes offer. Hells . . . If I act like an evil oppressor and abuse a few positions of power will she do the same for me?
The audible thwock of him being hit on the back of the head by whatever female is nearest echos, followed by Jerrs bemused chuckles.
Banite? Rando? Don't think so.
Nasty piece of work just the same? yup yup.
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*Rumors float about amongst the Jiyyd militia that Rando isnt in any position to dictate any of the questions that are put to him, especially because of his past actions, attacking an unarmed paladin at Jiyyd's gates, and then attacking Lyte of the legion, who came to the paladin's aid, some years back. Comments are made that these evil actions are why Rando left Jiyyd to begin with.
Jiyyd Watch Sgt. Lyte is now rumored to have offered to submit to be stripped of clothing and all trinkets in a careful search under a true seeing spell, if Rando will also, and be dispelled along with Rando, and then to have her heart checked along side of his.*
_"Perhaps Rando has repented his wickedness and his heart is no longer black. This is possible. It is unfair to submit just him to any embarrassment if his heart is now true. We will be tested together.
"Obviously", the elven woman is rumored to have stated, "if he refuses, his true nature is told in his fear to be tested in such a manner.
If he has changed for the better, I am all about redemption, and for my part, have no problem having him in town.
If he wont, do we want someone in Jiyyd whose morals allow attacking unarmed paladins in town, beating them to the ground, with utter disregard for the laws of the town?"_
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looks over to the rock
" Theaon informed the Council that i was a Banite. It was his lies that have got me banned. I am offering to prove him wrong, or is he too scared to find out his is full of crap and lying?"
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Corran sits against his rock, smiling softly
"As far as I'm aware Lying isn't actually a crime in Jiyyd, or in fact in any of Narfell except in specific circumstances. In either case it is not Thaeon that has barred Rando from town it is the Guards, presumably under orders from the Council. Since he is also banned from Norwick and quite probably Peltarch, since I had heard nothing of his ban there being lifted I can only assume he is bunking in Oscura with, or without, his banite friends. Actions speak louder than words, and whether he claims to be banite or not, his actions are those of a tyrannical oppressor. Presumable Bane is chuckling somewhere either way."
