Being evil in Narfell



  • I get that sometimes standign around Norwick fire people emote things like Wonder if Chaevre is going to advertise scrolls people expect me to suddenly shout out that i am a merchant or something? heh
    ive seen people laughs evilly too, i take it as they are laughing cause i dont know how an evil/good/neutral laugh might sound.



  • So you are saying that other players can and should react to my character's thoughts? You'll have to explain that one to me so that I at least play the game right.

    A typical emote might be: Wonders how much gold Bob is carrying.

    Now here I am just rping my evil character without having to ask for PKs to prove he is evil. As a player, I don't want to be killing all the other characters off just to be evil, but I still want to rp my evil character as evil without having to ruin the game for other players. So I have evil thoughts. But I always act nice (it's totally IC for me to deceive others).

    So if I emote wondering how much gold Bob has, how would Bob know that I am thinking about robbing him. Even if he were to notice me looking at him, how would he know that I am specifically thinking about robbing him?

    Another emote might be: Hello Bob, well met thinks given half the chance he would kill him

    Here he would know that I am looking at him and talking to him, but how would he know the stuff in the asterisks? Sometimes I might get anywhere from "I get a bad vibe off you" to the other guy pulling out his weapons saying "I'm warning you". All off what they should read as "Hello Bob, well met".

    Now of course I could just keep my thoughts to myself and not emote them. But where's the fun in that? Doing so would reduce rping evil to simple PKs. I know that there will always be someone who responds to my thoughts OOC (especially newbies who don't realize this is a RP server), but I don't know how someone can respond to my thoughts IC.

    Like I said, you'll have to explain that one to me, at least so I can play the game correctly.



  • If you want to pretend to be one thing but inside be another, dont emote it. Personally, I dont recall every person I've met and what they did. Sometimes I read their name to remember what their name was, sometimes it takes an emote from them to remind me that I saw them summoning undead when I was spying on them…. and due to this, sometimes I accidentally remember a name I dont know, if its someone that is around a lot, that I think I know thier name, I just read the name over their head.

    My point here is that metagaming is a part of gaming, we all do it, only some of us dont admit it. If you want to prevent metagaming about a certain topic, dont give people things to go off of... dont emote your thoughts of murdering people. Perhaps they would have detected evil on you without the emote, perhaps they wouldnt, but if you emote your thoughts, then they will either be said to be metagaming in that they sustpect you, or reverse metagaming in that they dont suspect you so people dont think they are metagaming, even though they really would suspect you. I see both ways happen, so just dont give them stuff to metagame.



  • I am playing an evil character right now, a cleric of (God ommitted to prevent metagaming), and he is being really low key. He doesn't wear his holy symbol on the outside, keeps it real close to his heart under his tunic. He never casts around other people on the off chance that they may recognize the incantations and peg him as a cleric of (God ommitted to prevent metagaming). All of his murderous thoughts are never said aloud, as they are always emoted. And you know what? I guess everyone is psychic because a whole lot of people are responding to his emotes by moving away from him, shunning him, etc.

    :?:

    Even Wald and Fine are psychic or metagamers I guess because they rarely give him a job though my other good cleric got jobs with them all the time and has about the same stats. Go figure. I thought I might have trouble with Paladins or people who cast Detect Evil, but wouldn't they need a reason to? I guess it is reverse metagaming to assume that people would need a reason to detect evil, but seriously, how many people actually waste a slot on that spell? :?

    So I guess it is hard to role play an evil character on Narfell if you actually want to role play them. If I just gave him an evil alignment, no one would probably be the wiser, ever. But actually role playing him as evil, even if it is just emotes, makes for a lonely night of playing 🙂

    I guess I could go find some other people who worship (God ommitted to prevent metagaming) but I hope for their sake they are being more closet evil than I am :twisted:



  • @bb8f2e8d76=garric:

    looks like the thread is quite off topic…

    Really?

    And Barrim! GET OUT YOU NO GOOD GOOD PLAYER!



  • looks like the thread is quite off topic…



  • @3d0018468a=Darkpowder:

    @3d0018468a=Katebush:

    Yeah alright, 5 heads. but I stand by the first bit, and no not based on angband. I was tired last night 😞

    Only the truly noble and great among us play Angband!

    bows respectfully

    Angband is dead…Long live Zangband


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    @2e84d0090a=Katebush:

    Yeah alright, 5 heads. but I stand by the first bit, and no not based on angband. I was tired last night 😞

    Only the truly noble and great among us play Angband!

    bows respectfully



  • @80fd924c24=Katebush:

    Yeah alright, 5 heads. but I stand by the first bit, and no not based on angband. I was tired last night 😞

    Lies! All lies!



  • Yeah alright, 5 heads. but I stand by the first bit, and no not based on angband. I was tired last night 😞



  • @5437dd5c42=Katebush:

    Tiamat is the seven headed Celestial Dragon of Evil, and is female, you philistines.

    Celestial of evil? you're thinking angbad 😛 And Tiamat has 5 heads, one for each chromatic dragon colour: Red, Blue, White, black and green



  • @cfb6f03a6c=Katebush:

    Tiamat is the seven headed Celestial Dragon of Evil, and is female, you philistines.

    Feminist..



  • Tiamat is the seven headed Celestial Dragon of Evil, and is female, you philistines.



  • Hes in the 9 hells and yeah hes a god even though its a dragon



  • you won't get banned from Peltarch, banites walk around there too. Only a follower of Tiamat would get trouble with a lot of other evil deity followers, Tiamat is no real too, right? I thought it was some 7 headed dragon



  • @9745090c08=Wannabe_Irish:

    I'm trying to make a follower of Tiamat, an evil deity, how do I go about making sure I let people know I worship her, so I don't receive a Fallen Token, without getting banned from towns or cities?

    You dont need to get a Fallen Token, just work secretly…Do you jobs at night...



  • I'm trying to make a follower of Tiamat, an evil deity, how do I go about making sure I let people know I worship her, so I don't receive a Fallen Token, without getting banned from towns or cities?



  • Keep your enemies closer.

    Oh and keep your underwear fresh….seriously.



  • Keep your friends close…



  • @36d774e391=Mischa:

    True, though I wouldn't go so far as to say deception is the only way to play evil effectively.

    'xactly, Deacon is rather open about it, not shunning to beat someone up in public over nothing, still he never gets any obstruction from no law force in no town whatsoever..

    It all comes down to the friends you have.. 😉